August 30, 2005

Sacriligious and Offensive

(And I probably mis-spelled both of those. Ha!)

I should probably be really offended by this, but I'm not. I think it's hillarious. This probably means that I am going to Hell. (Although, if I am going to Hell, I am probably going for better reasons than this.) Maybe I can be rescued by a "noodly appendage."

This website does bring up an interesting debate, however: The age old question of "Which is scientifically more accurate: Evolution or Creationism (currently getting a makeover as "Intelligent Design"... which means Creationism).

It should be noted that this debate is similar to the arguement regarding which came first, the chicken or its embryo, but not quite as important.

Here's my thing: I believe God created the world. I don't particularly care HOW he created the world. I believe he could have used evolution and taken millions of years and finally wound up with humans. I also believe that it is possible that it simply looks that way and that God really did make everything in seven days. Carbon dating, as I understand it, assumes that carbon has always decayed at the same rate it currently decays at. It's possible that temperatures, etc., the likes of which can never be known to man, were involved when the earth was created.

The bottom line is this: I don't care. I accept both theories in their respective realms. The seven days creationism story can be a metaphor and instructive whether or not it actually took seven days-- and yes, whether or not it actually happened that way at all. Evolution could have taken place and does not neccessarily conflict with Christianity in anything other than the minor detail of "was the earth really created in seven days or not," which is something even most Christians can't agree about.

In both theories, humanity was the last thing to arrive on the planet, not the first, which should tell us something about our theories and the relative importance of them. Namely that, in either case, WE WEREN'T THERE.

That said, the current socially acceptable theory is evolution. It's not really that much more believable than Creationism (or Flying Spagetti Monsterism) in my opinion, but that's the theory everybody believes for the moment. Why wouldn't you at least want your kid to know about the theory that has shaped most scientific thought for the last 100 years or so? You can teach them Creationism yourself. Or your pastor can teach them Creationism. Whatever.

I took geology in college and don't feel any worse off for having to learn about evolution and the current popular scientific theories about how the earth and various types of rocks were formed. Then again, I've always been a firm believer that if my faith/religion is really doing what it's supposed to do, then it should stand up to the study of other beliefs/theories, etc. If it doesn't, then I don't want to believe in it anyway.

Then again, I'm probably going to Hell, so I don't know if I'd take anything I say regarding your eternal soul too seriously.

Posted by LoWriter at August 30, 2005 08:12 AM
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I agree whole heartedly with you, although while the 'Spagetti Monster' is hilarious I honestly hope they don't sue, that would just bug me.

I once got into an argument in England with someone who was arguing against xnty purely on the basis of Creation vs Evolution. I remember being so disgusted because I didn't care at all, at all, how the earth was created. Either way has big gaping holes and either way can't be fully explain, therefore either way takes faith in the theory.

LoWriter, take heart, CS Lewis was a deistic evolutionist - just don't tell that to any hard core creationist :-)

And of course you aren't going to Hell, though maybe if you listened to more Christian music you would reach some 'higher plane' in heaven...

Posted by: 10lees at August 30, 2005 11:18 AM

how did all of us find out about that website at like, the exact same time??? i personally enjoy the theory of the decline of pirates vs the increase of natural disasters. i put the pirate fish bones as my computer banner.

i heart myself.

Posted by: dr gonzo at August 30, 2005 12:32 PM

I enjoy the pirate/global warming ratio as well. I think it's hillarious.

Also, 10, probably no one ever really thinks they're going to hell. So, probably I am. :)

Posted by: Lo at August 31, 2005 03:47 PM

not sure if this counts as a blaspheme or not, but if you read genesis closely you can actually parse out two seperate creation myths within it.

The first is represented in Gen 1:1 - Gen 2:3. This is the seven days myth. Within this myth, God creates first the earth, then plants and animals and finally humans (it's important to note that god creates both males and females at the same time in this myth).

But just after this is ANOTHER creation myth (gen 2:4-2:25) in which god forms the earth, then he creates men, then he creates the garden of eden, a bunch of rivers, some gold and onyx, then he makes animals, adam names a bunch of them, adam goes to sleep and god forms woman out of one of his ribs.

I've heard it argued that these are in fact the same myth and that the first myth is a generalization of what happened on the 6th day while the later is a more specific retelling of what happened on that day, but the order is significantly out of place (humans last or man first and woman last?) and I just don't buy it.

If you want an utterly mind-blowing interpretation of the genesis myth I would heartily recommend reading "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn. Probably the best novel I ever read in college. I probably dumped a couple hundred bucks into buying copies for other people to read it.

Posted by: rhett at September 1, 2005 11:44 PM

See, I tried to be an atheist, and that didn't work out so well for me. My life would be a whole lot better if I didn't believe in God. And I do believe that he created the earth in some manner, but I'm open to studying other points of view. I will have to check out the book you reccommended, rhett.

Posted by: Lo at September 2, 2005 02:37 PM

As for the age-old question....the quintessential New Yorker cartoon--in my mind--shows a chicken and an egg lying side by side in bed each lighting up a cigarette. The caption reads "I guess that answers that question."

Posted by: lord palmerston at September 7, 2005 01:48 PM